Posts by Frazzled UBM

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I am Back on JWN and out of hospital

by KateWild in

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hey everyone,.

thanks qcf and nugget for starting threads.

thanks cofty for wondering where i was.

Frazzled UBM

I hope you can help him without putting yourself at risk. It seems like you have been doing it tough but even then you are thinking of others. Reach out if you need anything.

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What do you think?

by rosie70 in

it happened to one of my friends.

what do you think of the guy's behavior?.

a girl and a guy are coworkers.

Just came across this jw comment on the interweb, what do you think?

by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

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we are up for a new kind of persecution in the future.

a new form that was unheard of for us.

in australia, disfellowshipped and dissasociated are planning on suing jw for emotional and mental hardship for being cast out completely.

Oh what horrible persecution that the WBTS could get sued for causing psychological harm by d'fing and shunning people and that they may have to put aside prejudice and perform gay marriages. So shocking! Poor Possums!

Where do these guys get off! This mentality is sooo f##ked up. But the r&f will lap it up. Them playing the victim makes me so angry.

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Mental Health Issues in JW Women

by Seven in

here's a click to the cultic studies journalissue concerning jw women.

[url] http://www.csj.org/pub_csj/csj_vol14_no1_97/abs_wifely.htm#top[/url]

Frazzled UBM

Oh crap - I just saw that Brian's one and only post was three years ago so not much chance he will see my post. TG-Jasper - thanks for bumping this important thread.

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Mental Health Issues in JW Women

by Seven in

here's a click to the cultic studies journalissue concerning jw women.

[url] http://www.csj.org/pub_csj/csj_vol14_no1_97/abs_wifely.htm#top[/url]

Frazzled UBM

Hi Brian - I see you have been lurking for 4 years and this is the first time you have had the courage to post. So well done and a belated welcome!

But please don't just parrot what the organisation tells you to think and say - start thinking for yourself.

Look around the congregation and observe the women - try and look behind the happy mask and see how things really are for them. Women have no status and no authority in the organisation (though elders wives try to do so through their husbands). They are second class citizens and those like my wife who have UBMs are lower still. As for psychological damage the organisation has caused my wife - it is palpable - low self-esteem, depression and anxiety. I believe that women may be more susceptible to the guilt and shame that the WBTS peddles as its stock in trade.

I spend a lot of time trying to help my wife with her self-esteem that has been so badly damaged by growing up in the oppressive environment you know of as 'The Truth'.

Get out of denial and open your mind and maybe you might even start to see clearly for the first time in your life. Good luck

Cheers Fraz

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Birthdays

by Laika in

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i had my first real birthday party yesterday.

call me an irredeemable pagan, but i was massively excited about this, the whole thing was very special, i got a little emotional and i think my friends must have found it a little strange but it was just nice to be creature worshipped.

when i was a child my parents always used to tell people i didn't miss out by not celebrating my birthday but i did miss out.

Frazzled UBM

Happy Birthday Laika! I am glad you enjoyed your first celebration.

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American Rantings About World Cup Soccer (Football)

by RubaDub in

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i try ... i really try to watch football (soccer) ... it's world cup time ... i really do try.. i just don't get it ... i really don't.. yes, it's a world-wide sport.

in most countries it is the number 1 or number 2 sport ... no doubt about it.

it's maybe number 5 in the usa for professional sports.. from an american's perspective (i think i speak for many), we just wonder if these guys actually have testicles.

Frazzled UBM

Arguing about which sport is best is an exercise in futility because it is so cultural based but what the hell I will join in. I grew up playing football but it bores me to tears to watch on tv (watching an EPL or La Liga game is something entirely different because of the atmosphere which is amazing) because there is so much build up and so little fulfilment (goals being scored) which I think explains hooliganism (it is an expression of the pent up frustration). My preferred sport is rugby - lots of physcial collisions without the stage acting injuries - but the same level of stamina and athleticism (not so stop and start like American fooball) and a decent amount of scoring and mucher higher levels of respect for the referees. No hooliganism because the violence is all on the field. The problem with rugby is that it is very technical and so not accessible to those who have not been brought up on it and so it is not apparent to those who are unfamilair with it, what is going on and why players are doing what they are doing (football is much easier to understand in this regard). Decision making (that is the exercise of the right option from a large range) in a split second in rugby is important and udnerstanding how that works is one of the things that makes the game interesting.

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Just Realised I have been on here for 5 years now

by cantleave in

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how time flies......... ..... and armageddon still hasn't come..

Frazzled UBM

Happy anniversary - I like your low key approach

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What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

by frankiespeakin in

take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

Frazzled UBM

It is striking how many Apostates are Ns. To venture a speculative theory about why that may be the case, I wonder wheterh the ability to tap into one's intuition about something being wrong with life as a Witness and what the WBTS teaches is important in learning TTATT.

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What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

by frankiespeakin in

take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

Frazzled UBM

I am also ENTP like cofty. I also did it years ago and got the same result. While Myers/Brigg is accepted as a useful tool, it is not scientific in the sense it is not based on experoimental research. It is more something that was developed based on intuition that is now widely accepted as having some validity. Its main useful is as a tool to show that we all have different preferences in how to do things and interact and that by understanding this it can reduce our sense that there is something wrong with people who don't think, act or interact in the same way we do. There is anothe similar tool called DISC which divides people up into Dominant, Inspirational, (I don't remember what S stands for) and Compliant. I guess most active JWs would fall into the C category. I think I read somewhere that members of a cult have almost identical Myers/Briggs profiles but when tested before joining or after leaving the cult they have very different profiles which sort of makes sense.